Comments on: Links for January 3rd through January 25th http://madinkbeard.com/blog/archives/links-for-january-3rd-through-january-25th { Derik Badman's Writing on Comics (mostly) } Thu, 20 Nov 2008 17:07:14 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: DerikB http://madinkbeard.com/blog/archives/links-for-january-3rd-through-january-25th#comment-98314 DerikB Sat, 26 Jan 2008 20:37:32 +0000 http://madinkbeard.com/blog/archives/links-for-january-3rd-through-january-25th#comment-98314 Daybreak! That's exactly what I meant. Though now, reading your comments I'm getting myself to rethink. This deserves further thought and words, as I need to pull out my copy of Genette's "Narrative Discourse". He has some very useful models for this based on (iirc) who is telling the story and how the story is focused. More later. Daybreak! That’s exactly what I meant. Though now, reading your comments I’m getting myself to rethink.

This deserves further thought and words, as I need to pull out my copy of Genette’s “Narrative Discourse”. He has some very useful models for this based on (iirc) who is telling the story and how the story is focused. More later.

]]> By: Tymothi Godek http://madinkbeard.com/blog/archives/links-for-january-3rd-through-january-25th#comment-98311 Tymothi Godek Sat, 26 Jan 2008 20:16:46 +0000 http://madinkbeard.com/blog/archives/links-for-january-3rd-through-january-25th#comment-98311 <blockquote cite="Derik">Off the top of my head, I’m not coming up with any comics that use the limited first person viewpoint in the unmediated form.</blockquote> Daybreak? Dan Nadel's Art Out of Time has a 1953 story called Colorama told in first person. It seems there are other examples. Unless I'm missing "the unmediated form" part... Point of view in comics is something I've given a lot of thought to. You can ostensibly boil prose down to first-second-third ("I"-"you"-"they") but it doesn't work the same for comics (or film, for that matter). When the reader assumes the perspective of the character, it's "first person." But so would be an interior narration and "limited perspective", right? So what's second? The text-narration in Colorama refers to "you" and treats the story as though "you" are the protagonist. Is this second person? Is Daybreak "second person" - as the reader assumes the role of the character? Still seems kind of clumsy to me. I've got a story idea that plays with the notions of first-second-third perspectives in comics... someday...

Off the top of my head, I’m not coming up with any comics that use the limited first person viewpoint in the unmediated form.

Daybreak? Dan Nadel’s Art Out of Time has a 1953 story called Colorama told in first person. It seems there are other examples. Unless I’m missing “the unmediated form” part…

Point of view in comics is something I’ve given a lot of thought to. You can ostensibly boil prose down to first-second-third (”I”-”you”-”they”) but it doesn’t work the same for comics (or film, for that matter). When the reader assumes the perspective of the character, it’s “first person.” But so would be an interior narration and “limited perspective”, right? So what’s second? The text-narration in Colorama refers to “you” and treats the story as though “you” are the protagonist. Is this second person? Is Daybreak “second person” - as the reader assumes the role of the character? Still seems kind of clumsy to me.

I’ve got a story idea that plays with the notions of first-second-third perspectives in comics…

someday…

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