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		<title>By: DerikB</title>
		<link>http://madinkbeard.com/archives/mmf-barefoot-gen-by-keiji-nakazawa#comment-289786</link>
		<dc:creator>DerikB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Mar 2011 15:39:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Damn, Bill. I&#039;ll need a little time to formulate a reply... stay tuned.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Damn, Bill. I&#8217;ll need a little time to formulate a reply&#8230; stay tuned.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill "Japanese Comics Ukulele Troubadour" Randall</title>
		<link>http://madinkbeard.com/archives/mmf-barefoot-gen-by-keiji-nakazawa#comment-289538</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill "Japanese Comics Ukulele Troubadour" Randall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Mar 2011 02:34:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here&#039;s my big question, before which I will point to after it where I&#039;ll say a bit more about bomb lit and context and airplane tix so on, but my question--

Why is this melodrama bad? You didn&#039;t seem to mind the melodrama in Dousei Jidai, I recall.  Avalanche of Love and all.

One&#039;s romance, one&#039;s war, both sin against reality. I expect Gen&#039;s truer to life. Does its idiom offend? I&#039;m interested in melodrama generally, and when and why it ceases to be accepted, so I&#039;d like to know what you think there.

That asked, you&#039;re right that Gen&#039;s a deeply melodramatic kids&#039; book. It&#039;s also a push against a few decades of native propaganda hyping Japan as the East&#039;s superior savior (see Kramers&#039; #6 for Nakakuro, a visually stunning, politically odious sample). &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koreans_in_Japan&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Koreans are still discriminated against&lt;/a&gt; and the Right&#039;s still clinging to power fantasies that many Americans, even with our odious partisanship, would find astonishing. Gen started in &#039;73 so I read it as a young radical lashing out at the previous generation&#039;s crap. It ran in a  mainstream magazine, but at a time when the whole mainstream was pretty crazy, experimental, and passionate-- it ran with Dr. Toilet and Samurai Giants, for instance. I wonder too how the gore in Gen looks next to the other comics in Shonen Jump. Nakazawa&#039;s always struck me as deeply humanist, like Kurosawa, but K&#039;s most deeply moral work appeared when N was still a kid. That said, what&#039;s remarkable to me about the book is how, as a kids&#039; work that uses caricature, it doesn&#039;t whitewash. Compare the execrable 1983 film adaptation, or sentimental works by non-hibakusha. I&#039;ll stop before I go off on hibakusha lit, Holocaust lit, and genre.

Anyway, when I win a ton of money betting on the NCAAs, I&#039;m getting us tickets for the museum in Hiroshima. It has both nigh-sacred artifacts from the blast and kitschy wax-dummy bomb victims that offend American sensibilities. There&#039;s also a great pub there where someone threw a live octopus at my prissy ex-girlfriend, and if we go before June 11 we&#039;ll see &quot;The Special Exhibition: War through the Eyes of Children With the Help of Barefoot Gen.&quot; See, it&#039;s kismet.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s my big question, before which I will point to after it where I&#8217;ll say a bit more about bomb lit and context and airplane tix so on, but my question&#8211;</p>
<p>Why is this melodrama bad? You didn&#8217;t seem to mind the melodrama in Dousei Jidai, I recall.  Avalanche of Love and all.</p>
<p>One&#8217;s romance, one&#8217;s war, both sin against reality. I expect Gen&#8217;s truer to life. Does its idiom offend? I&#8217;m interested in melodrama generally, and when and why it ceases to be accepted, so I&#8217;d like to know what you think there.</p>
<p>That asked, you&#8217;re right that Gen&#8217;s a deeply melodramatic kids&#8217; book. It&#8217;s also a push against a few decades of native propaganda hyping Japan as the East&#8217;s superior savior (see Kramers&#8217; #6 for Nakakuro, a visually stunning, politically odious sample). <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koreans_in_Japan" rel="nofollow">Koreans are still discriminated against</a> and the Right&#8217;s still clinging to power fantasies that many Americans, even with our odious partisanship, would find astonishing. Gen started in &#8217;73 so I read it as a young radical lashing out at the previous generation&#8217;s crap. It ran in a  mainstream magazine, but at a time when the whole mainstream was pretty crazy, experimental, and passionate&#8211; it ran with Dr. Toilet and Samurai Giants, for instance. I wonder too how the gore in Gen looks next to the other comics in Shonen Jump. Nakazawa&#8217;s always struck me as deeply humanist, like Kurosawa, but K&#8217;s most deeply moral work appeared when N was still a kid. That said, what&#8217;s remarkable to me about the book is how, as a kids&#8217; work that uses caricature, it doesn&#8217;t whitewash. Compare the execrable 1983 film adaptation, or sentimental works by non-hibakusha. I&#8217;ll stop before I go off on hibakusha lit, Holocaust lit, and genre.</p>
<p>Anyway, when I win a ton of money betting on the NCAAs, I&#8217;m getting us tickets for the museum in Hiroshima. It has both nigh-sacred artifacts from the blast and kitschy wax-dummy bomb victims that offend American sensibilities. There&#8217;s also a great pub there where someone threw a live octopus at my prissy ex-girlfriend, and if we go before June 11 we&#8217;ll see &#8220;The Special Exhibition: War through the Eyes of Children With the Help of Barefoot Gen.&#8221; See, it&#8217;s kismet.</p>
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		<title>By: Manga Therapy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Manga Therapy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Feb 2011 20:52:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Now that you mention Gen&#039;s optimism, I read Volume 5 and Gen actually keeps telling his friends to not give up ever. I do think Gen is way too optimistic. Yes, optimism is nice &amp; important, but you need some reality to balance it. 

If you want things to be changed, then the government has to take initiative themselves by taking a look at the leaders in charge. Just letting them know about problems isn&#039;t enough.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now that you mention Gen&#8217;s optimism, I read Volume 5 and Gen actually keeps telling his friends to not give up ever. I do think Gen is way too optimistic. Yes, optimism is nice &amp; important, but you need some reality to balance it. </p>
<p>If you want things to be changed, then the government has to take initiative themselves by taking a look at the leaders in charge. Just letting them know about problems isn&#8217;t enough.</p>
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		<title>By: Michelle Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michelle Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Feb 2011 19:08:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m not arguing against the injustice, either. What I said was that &quot;it gets to me.&quot;

I realize this isn&#039;t supposed to be a pleasurable read or anything, and I certainly haven&#039;t experienced anything remotely &lt;i&gt;near&lt;/i&gt; what these characters are going through. Maybe this level of people being crappy to each other really is true-to-life. 

But some parts of it do read as over-the-top to me and when that happens, I start to disengage.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not arguing against the injustice, either. What I said was that &#8220;it gets to me.&#8221;</p>
<p>I realize this isn&#8217;t supposed to be a pleasurable read or anything, and I certainly haven&#8217;t experienced anything remotely <i>near</i> what these characters are going through. Maybe this level of people being crappy to each other really is true-to-life. </p>
<p>But some parts of it do read as over-the-top to me and when that happens, I start to disengage.</p>
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		<title>By: DerikB</title>
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		<dc:creator>DerikB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Feb 2011 16:25:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m not arguing against the injustice part, just commenting.

I just against the melodrama.

As far as Maus... I haven&#039;t read it in, probably 10 years or more, so I&#039;m not in a place to comment.

Another point, brutal honesty and straight-forward portrayal do not necessarily make good narrative. In fact I would in general argue the opposite.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not arguing against the injustice part, just commenting.</p>
<p>I just against the melodrama.</p>
<p>As far as Maus&#8230; I haven&#8217;t read it in, probably 10 years or more, so I&#8217;m not in a place to comment.</p>
<p>Another point, brutal honesty and straight-forward portrayal do not necessarily make good narrative. In fact I would in general argue the opposite.</p>
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		<title>By: Marc Sobel</title>
		<link>http://madinkbeard.com/archives/mmf-barefoot-gen-by-keiji-nakazawa#comment-279598</link>
		<dc:creator>Marc Sobel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Feb 2011 16:21:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Not to be argumentative, but I just don&#039;t get this line of criticism.  How is the fact that a book about having one&#039;s entire village obliterated and half your family killed NOT going to have &quot;unrelenting injustice&quot;?  

Gen is a survivor&#039;s memoir and the injustice depicted is the book&#039;s greatest strength, not a weakness.  It&#039;s what gives it its emotional resonance and social relevance.  This &quot;injustice&quot; is exactly what Nakazawa wanted to convey (and I think he did it quite successfully) to hopefully enlighten people to the horrors of nuclear weapons.  This is not meant to be a feel-good, human interest story; it&#039;s a harsh recounting of the greatest atrocity in human civilization.    

I tried to make the case at my blog that Nakazawa was being truthful in the vast majority of what is presented.  Sure, there were a few embellishments for artistic license (which is always true in autobiography) and maybe they were exaggerated too much in some cases, but overall it&#039;s a brutally honest and straight-forward portrayal.     

I can understand if the book makes people uncomfortable or depressed, but to complain about this as a foundational weakness of the work itself seems both cold-hearted and indefensible to me.  Would you level the same criticism at Speigelman&#039;s Maus?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not to be argumentative, but I just don&#8217;t get this line of criticism.  How is the fact that a book about having one&#8217;s entire village obliterated and half your family killed NOT going to have &#8220;unrelenting injustice&#8221;?  </p>
<p>Gen is a survivor&#8217;s memoir and the injustice depicted is the book&#8217;s greatest strength, not a weakness.  It&#8217;s what gives it its emotional resonance and social relevance.  This &#8220;injustice&#8221; is exactly what Nakazawa wanted to convey (and I think he did it quite successfully) to hopefully enlighten people to the horrors of nuclear weapons.  This is not meant to be a feel-good, human interest story; it&#8217;s a harsh recounting of the greatest atrocity in human civilization.    </p>
<p>I tried to make the case at my blog that Nakazawa was being truthful in the vast majority of what is presented.  Sure, there were a few embellishments for artistic license (which is always true in autobiography) and maybe they were exaggerated too much in some cases, but overall it&#8217;s a brutally honest and straight-forward portrayal.     </p>
<p>I can understand if the book makes people uncomfortable or depressed, but to complain about this as a foundational weakness of the work itself seems both cold-hearted and indefensible to me.  Would you level the same criticism at Speigelman&#8217;s Maus?</p>
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		<title>By: DerikB</title>
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		<dc:creator>DerikB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Feb 2011 15:55:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The unrelenting injustice continues at least through 4 volumes.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The unrelenting injustice continues at least through 4 volumes.</p>
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		<title>By: Michelle Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michelle Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Feb 2011 15:46:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[While I did find things to like in the one volume of &lt;i&gt;Barefoot Gen&lt;/i&gt; that I read—that sequence with the battleship and broken windows—I think you make some very good points here.

As I commented on David Welsh&#039;s post, what really gets to me is unrelenting, over-the-top injustice, and it seems that&#039;s what I&#039;ve got to look forward to in volumes to come.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I did find things to like in the one volume of <i>Barefoot Gen</i> that I read—that sequence with the battleship and broken windows—I think you make some very good points here.</p>
<p>As I commented on David Welsh&#8217;s post, what really gets to me is unrelenting, over-the-top injustice, and it seems that&#8217;s what I&#8217;ve got to look forward to in volumes to come.</p>
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		<title>By: classic shmassics &#171; n i j o m u</title>
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		<dc:creator>classic shmassics &#171; n i j o m u</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Feb 2011 01:18:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Derik Badman&#8217;s dislike of Barefoot Gen, which is often considered a comics classic, lead me to think of classics that I myself don&#8217;t like. While in general I think it&#8217;s more useful to argue why something is good, I also think blanket praise is useless. So I want to be the contrarian when I hear it. And maybe I&#8217;m just in a crabby mood. [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Derik Badman&#8217;s dislike of Barefoot Gen, which is often considered a comics classic, lead me to think of classics that I myself don&#8217;t like. While in general I think it&#8217;s more useful to argue why something is good, I also think blanket praise is useless. So I want to be the contrarian when I hear it. And maybe I&#8217;m just in a crabby mood. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: DerikB</title>
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		<dc:creator>DerikB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Feb 2011 13:27:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ll have to give it a reread some time this week.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll have to give it a reread some time this week.</p>
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